Greetings Turbo Regal Inner Circle Members 03-16-2016 -
REPRODUCTION ALUMINUM BRAKE DRUMS UPDATE -
I have no news to report on the reproduction aluminum drums that A1 Cardone has just produced. However, they have sent me one to examine, which I don’t have as of yet.
I will have photos of it in next week’s Inner Circle. I plan to also photograph an original aluminum drum that is currently on our white Turbo-T in the garage hibernating. Hopefully, I will also have more details and pricing by then.
MONTE CARLO SS COMPARISONS TO THE BUICK REGAL GRAND NATIONAL -
People will always compare the Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS to the Buick Regal Grand National.
To learn more about Monte Carlo SS models, I checked with a good friend of mine who deals with the 1983-1988 Monte Carlo parts. He says all the SS Monte Carlos received aluminum supports in the bumpers, front and rear. Also, the 1985 through 1988 models all got 3.73 gears. They all had a 7.5 size rear assembly, whereas our cars had the bigger 8.5 housings. The 1983 and 1984 models had 3.42 gears because it still had a 3- speed transmission.
Based on this, it would appear that Chevrolet did virtually everything possible to eliminate weight from the Monte Carlo SS. They also installed 3.73 gearing so it had some power off the line. Even with the weight reductions Chevrolet did, the basic weight was within 10 pounds as the same year Grand National. Also, the Monte Carlo SS did not have heavy chrome steel wheels, like the Grand National did.
Remember, back then most potential buyers were in the dark about the power that the Buick V6 SFI turbo was making. Most buyers opted for the Monte Carlo SS because of the V8. For many years the V8 was the sought after engine for muscle cars.
It wasn’t until partially through 1987 that potential buyers started to realize from the many various magazine articles that Buick had stolen the spotlight from Chevy. Buick accomplished this with a little V6 turbo-charged engine. If the internet been a factor back then, I think Buick would have sold more Turbo Regals, since information would have reached the public more quickly. This is just my opinion.
I have bought and sold just over 300 Turbo Regals (1986-1987.) Some had the original paperwork. On some of the car’s paperwork it showed the owner traded a Monte Carlo SS in on the Turbo Regal.
I happen to have the invoice for our personal Turbo-T and even that owner traded in a 1986 Monte Carlo on the Turbo-T in the summer of 1987.
Going by memory I can only recall taking in one Monte Carlo SS as a partial trade. The reason I avoided taking them in trades, was because so many were produced, it would be a tough car for me to resell.
My source told me Chevrolet produced approximately 200,000 Monte Carlos from 1983 through 1988. That is about 4 times more than the 1983-1987 Turbo Buicks that were produced.
GM LICENSED REPRODUCTION DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS -
Dave, the owner of ECS Automotive Concepts, is sending me samples of a 1986 Grand National Window Sticker he recently did. He’s also sending me a Window Sticker duplicating my 1987 Turbo-T, so I can compare it to my original and to Triple A’s reproduction, which I also have. He has purchased the correct paper stock, which is perforated on the edges like the original paper. He says it will be a dead on match to the original Window Stickers. Our original Window Sticker were all black and lacked any kind of color unlike the later ones! Once I get these samples, we’ll have a price for these reproduction Window Stickers.
We just made up a display board that we show actual samples of all the GM Licensed Door Jamb VIN Data Decals from 1969 thru 1989. The board also shows the 4 different years of body number plates - 1984, 1985, 1986, and 1987. This board will be on display at our Spring Open House as well as Richard Clark’s event in May in North Carolina. I will also have it at the seminar I’m conducting at the GM at Carlisle event.
PHOTO 1 - Shows the board that features all the GM licensed Reproduction Door Jamb VIN data decals from 1969 through 1989. Although it may not be readable in the photo, the 1975-1976 decals were the same and there was just a single decal those years. The 1978 and up all received 2 decals. The decal for 1981-1983 was the same. The decal for 1985-1986 was the same. The decal for 1987-1989 was the same.
GM did not put a GM part number on the door jamb VIN data decals until the 1978 design. These differences would probably not be known by most owners unless they saw samples of all the various year’s of decals in one place, like on the display board we compiled.
BACKTRACKING TO LAST WEEK’S ISSUE ON THE LeSABRE GRAND NATIONAL -
PHOTO 2 - Here are two photos I was able to find of the 1986 LeSabre Grand National we had in the early 1990s. The car really looked good after our son painted it. We had American Racing wheels, since I did not like the stock wheels.
On a side note, the coupes for this body style are very rare to see today. Whether it’s a Buick or an Oldsmobile, you see mostly the four-door sedans.
MORE BACK TRACKING -
I am not sure what issue I mentioned it in, but I remember when we were selling the Turbo Regals, we had a customer come to look at a Grand National we had for sale. At the time we probably had 4 or 5 Turbo Regals sitting at our house and my neighbor’s house. I remember because it was wintertime and our neighbor spent the entire winter in Florida and wanted us to put cars on their driveway so it appeared that someone was home. They even let me use one of their garage bays.
This buyer came to look at the 2 or 3 Grand Nationals we had for sale. He wanted to buy a Grand National. At the time, I had a very rare color a beautiful light blue 1987 Turbo-T with the chrome package and the rare astroroof option. The Turbo-T was blocking the one Grand National he came to see, so I had to move it. Within a few minutes he had changed his mind completely and bought the light blue Turbo-T. Of the 300 plus Turbo Regals I’ve owned, it was the only light blue one I ever bought.
PHOTO 3 - Here are 2 photos of the light blue Turbo-T. In the one photo, you can see a Grand National behind it. Since it doesn’t have a PA inspection sticker, it means I bought it out of state. The car had the dark blue interior, which I always thought was one of the best color interiors in these cars. I can’t recall what year I sold this car since my chart does not list color combinations. One thing for certain, it is worth a lot more today than it was when I sold it, as long as it has been maintained. I don’t know why, but you just never see many light blue 1987 Turbo-Ts. The astroroof makes it even more rare.
DID YOU KNOW -
Did you know that last year - 2015 - Buick only had 5 different models available? All were either front-wheel or all-wheel drive. Compared this to 1987 when Buick had 8 different models in the marketplace. Under each of the 8 different models, they offered many different versions. While the number of models Buick offered has decreased, they have improved their quality control immensely since 1987!
RICHARD CLARK IS NOW ON FACEBOOK -
Below is a link to see what Richard Clark has been doing. As you know the TurboBuick.com event is held in part at his garage in Burlington, North Carolina. We will be there handling some of the duties such as the Thursday luncheon. His shop is fully equipped to do it all, from drive train to body and paint.
https://www.facebook.com/RichardClarksGarage/
FROM OUR ARCHIVES -
Last week we covered more about the 1986 Buick Press Kit. Also 1986 was the first year that the high-mounted stop lamp was on every model. Some GM models did have this feature in 1985. This was mandatory for all 1986 U.S. production cars. Trucks were not required to have a third brake light until 1994.
Meanwhile, at Mercedes Benz, it was the first year they installed air bags in all their models. Prior to this in 1985 it was $880 option on most Mercedes Benz models.
In the 1986 Buick Press Kit, it stated that the T-Type models had specially designed Lear Sieglar bucket seats. This was not to be, according to a Product Information sheet that I have dated 5/12/86. The original plan was for it to be available in the Regal, Century and Somerset models. The sheet does not give a reason why this option was cancelled. Another Product Information sheet dated 2/28/86 explained the price increase for the hatch roof (T-Tops) was because a lock system was added to each roof panel and the price was then listed at $875.
Buick printed a Performance Perspective Sheet for the 1986 Regal T-Type and also did one for the Riviera T-Type. One side covered all the specs related to the powertrain and performance and the other side listed all the specs for the chassis. It’s interesting that under brakes it only listed the cast iron finned drums and did not even mention the aluminum drums. The estimated weight of the 1986 Grand National was listed at 3,256 lbs. The weight is estimated, because options add more weight.
PHOTO 4 - We show both the front and back of the 1986 Buick Regal T-Type Performance Perspective sheet from Buick.
CAR FOR SALE - 1986 Buick LeSabre Grand National - NON TURBO 3800 motor
A rare collector’s Buick Grand National LeSabre
1 of 117 and 1 of 25 that was used at the Daytona 500
Car has been garage kept since 1986
25,000 original miles
Exterior is 9-1/2
Interior is a 10
I have all the original paper work from the dealer
The wheels on the car are aftermarket, but the original wheels are in mint condition in my garage. Original wheels will come with the car.
Not really looking to trade unless you have a diesel pickup in good condition.
Cash is king, and low ball offers will be ignored. Any other questions, let me know.
Call, text, email, all is fine. Reasonable hrs. Car can be seen any day of the week after 3pm.
Please don’t call and ask me if this car has a TURBO because it does not have one.
FWD 3800 Non Turbo motor.
$20,000
For more information, contact Joe - 908-510-8229 -
email - [email protected]
Central New Jersey
Here is a link to this LeSabre For Sale on our website:
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product/44296/CAR+FOR+SALE+-+1986+Buick+LeSabre+Grand+National+-+CFS037.html
DO YOU OWN A RETAIL BUSINESS -
We have almost all the details worked out on this new project. Profit margins would be between 35% and 40%. We will have samples on display at our Open House and at Richard Clark’s event as well. If you have any type of retail outlet, this might be something you want to consider. We will be posting actual photos in an upcoming Inner Circle of this product line, sometime in the next few weeks.
REPRODUCTION GNX-STYLE DASH FOR SALE -
Complete pre-mounted GNX dash for sale. All of the cutting, fitting and alignment work is complete, just wire the dash and install the entire unit.
Kit Includes:
Applique with correct color indicators
Metal mounting plate
Plastic gauge bezel
Stock pre-cut cluster harness
Stock dash bezel (pre-cut with plastic gauge bezel attached)
New Stewart Warner speedometer with upper speedometer cable
New Stewart Warner tachometer
New Stewart Warner oil pressure gauge with sending unit
New Stewart Warner water temperature gauge with sending unit
New Stewart Warner fuel gauge
New Stewart Warner vacuum/ boost gauge
Plug-and-play harness
$2,250 plus shipping
This one was hand built by a good friend of ours who owns 3 Grand Nationals and has built several of these.
It comes with stock bezel already pre-cut so you do not have to cut your dash bezel. This kit eliminates any possible issues of trial and error since they have built several of these.
Buyer would have to inform us which dash is currently in the car - either digital or analog.
If interested, email me direct - [email protected] - I can provide photos.
CORES NEEDED -
Here is the information on our credits for cores.
We currently need original good 1986-1987 AC Delco mass air flow sensors. We allow $25 Letter of Credit for each core that can be rebuilt.
URGENT NEED - TURBO CORES must be the 1986-1987 Turbo Regal stock ones. They must be complete. We will issue you a $100 Letter of Credit for each acceptable core.
If you ship to us, the post office is the cheapest method. Pack the item(s) with a note with your name, address and phone number
MAIL - Ship to Address -
ATTN - DENNIS
KIRBAN PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
PO BOX 1199
PLUMSTEADSVILLE, PA 18949-1199
TECH CALLS -
If you need technical information, it’s best to email - [email protected] rather than call us.
We will do our best to answer any technical questions within 24 hours.
VEHICLES FOR SALE -
From time to time, whenever we spot an unusual or an exceptional car or truck for sale, or one we have for sale, we will put a blurb in our weekly Inner Circle. Also, any cars that our customers have for sale will be featured here and you can see their car with photos on our website. In this category, we will run the descriptions for two-to-three weeks and, if there is no interest in that particular vehicle, it will be deleted the following week. Any new vehicles that we add will appear first, so the oldest listing would be at the end of this section.
If any of these vehicles perk your interest, email me personally - [email protected] - for more information and photos.
TIPS AND IDEAS YOU HAVE TRIED -
If you have a tip or a discovery that you found that works on your Turbo Regal, drop us an email giving us the details so we can pass the info on to our readers. Remember, even with my knowledge, I don’t know it all. Simply email me at - [email protected]
NEW PRODUCTS FROM US -
1978-1988 GM G-Body, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
BOLT-IN REAR SHOCK TOWER BRACE & HARDWARE
This 100% jig built, bolt-in brace ties the rear upper shock mounts together to share the load and stiffen the chassis. Strong 1-1/4" tubing is MIG welded to 3/16" thick laser cut brackets for a perfect fit.
This brace is designed to clear all of the popular exhaust systems and works equally well on coilover setups and traditional spring/shock combinations. Overall distance from floor to the bottom of the brace is approximately 5".
All UMI products are built from US steel, then powder coated black. Hardware is included to makes this a true, easy bolt-in installation.
Features:
Manufactured from 1-1/4" USA Tubing
CNC laser cut 3/16" mounting brackets
Grade 8 hardware included
Easy bolt-in installation with basic hand tools
Powder-coated black for a durable long-lasting finish
Made in the USA by UMI
Our top photo shows the brace and the hardware. The lower photos show this rear shock tower brace installed on a car with coil over springs. NOTE - The brace in the photos is red, but we only offer it in black.
NOTE - You may also be interested in these related parts - #1586 Powder-coated Black Rear Seat Frame Brace Kit® and #7169 Reproduction GNX Rear Seat Brace Kit (5) Set.
Another excellent way to stiffen the suspension on your car.
7715 - 1978-1988 GM G-Body, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
Bolt-In Rear Shock Tower Brace and Hardware - $130
Here is a link to this Shock Tower Brace on our website:
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product/44295/BOLT-IN+REAR+SHOCK+TOWER+BRACE+%26+HARDWARE+%237715.html
1984-1989 ALL GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS
Every 1978-1987 G-body car had 2 tamper-proof door jamb VIN data decals. It’s impossible to remove the originals decals without destroying them. These decals are required by Federal Law to be printed on tamper-proof paper. The important decals show the car’s date of manufacture and the 17-digit VIN number. In many cases, your original decals may no longer be readable, may be missing, or may have paint overspray on them.
GM used a different design for each specific year or years.
Below is all the information pertaining to getting the proper reproduction door jamb VIN data decals for an 1984-1989 Turbo Regal. This also includes any 1984-1987, Monte Carlo SS, or Oldsmobile 442. We can also get ones for those same years for the regular models. In those cases, the tire sizes listed would be different.
We are working with the only GM licensed vendor authorized to reproduce all these important VIN-related decals for GM older vehicles, ECS Automotive Concepts. We are the only mail-order distributor directly dealing with ECS to offer these decals for the cars listed. We also have made this product line available to other GM mail-order suppliers. ECS Automotive Concepts also has VIN data decals contracts with Ford, Chrysler and several others. They have the special equipment in house to exactly match the original font style GM used to imprint the door jamb VIN data decals. These are printed on the correct tamper-proof paper, which is required by Federal Law. They are the ONLY GM licensed source to make them complete using the proper font format to imprint exact information for your individual car.
While you can find blank VIN data decals available elsewhere, many are not on the correct tamper-proof paper (required by Federal Law.) Most of these sellers offer blank decals and tell you to simply type in your information. Of course, your typewriter is not going to match the font style GM used, it’s impossible to type it straight onto a small decal, and who even has a typewriter today. The correct equipment to duplicate the original font GM used runs over $100,000. ECS Automotive Concepts has this equipment in house. Their larger market caters to all the late-model GM-Chrysler-Ford vehicles for collision shops, since they hold all the required license agreements with those companies to reproduce the VIN decals.
If you want to have the correct door jamb VIN data decals to replace unreadable decals on your car or if your car’s decals are missing altogether, ECS is the only authentic option. These are custom-made specifically for your car. Having these important decals also enhances the value of your car. It is one of the things collectors look for since it has the VIN information on it. Not having these VIN data decals on a car raises a red flag with any potential collectable car buyer.
Be sure to read all the below information carefully before placing your order for replacement 1984-1987 Turbo Regal Door Jamb VIN Data stickers. We only offer them as a set of both decals. You cannot order just one, since it would stand out looking new next to the old original decal.
First, if yours are still on your door jamb take a photo so you can see their exact position. Do NOT remove them until you receive the new decals. Be sure to note which one of the two decals is the first one on your door jamb and which direction they face.
We have listed the original GM part number by each year, which appears on your actual data VIN decals. In each case, the GM part number was the same for both with the addition of either the letter A or B after the part number.
The A code will show your 17-digit VIN number, date of manufacture, and vehicle weight.
The B code covers the Tire-Loading information.
You need to verify that it’s the same GM part number that corresponds to your specific year Turbo Regal. This 8-digit GM part number with the letter A or B will be in the bottom right corner of the two door jamb data decals. If your label that contains the 17-digit VIN number is completely gone or not legible, you must send us a clear copy of your VIN number from the dash VIN plate, the SPI trunk label, or your car title. Along with the photographic file, also type out the 17-digit VIN number and Date of Manufacture so it can be checked against the photo.
We cannot process your order without this proof of your VIN number. You also need to provide month and year of Date of Manufacture. The only way I know this can be determined is by reading the code on your Body Number Plate, also called the “Cowl Tag Plate.” This is the small metal plate located under the hood by the driver’s side wiper arm. In most cases, you will have to lightly sand the raise letters/numbers to read them. The code you need is on the first line. There is a 4-digit code in the upper left corner that gives the year, month, and week of production of your car. Keep in mind, Dates of Manufacture could be the fall prior to your actual model year. Example - An early 1984 model could have a production date of November 1983, December 1983, and so on. You only need to give us the year and month, which is what would appear on the door jamb VIN data decal. The first letter in the code stands for the year. The digits following the letter represent the month. The last single letter represents the week of production. Example, The letter E stands for 1984, F stands for 1985, G stands for 1986, and H stands for 1987. Example - For the month of production - 02 would be for February, 04 would be April, and so on. The letter after the initial numbers is the actual production week of the month, which we do NOT need since it does not appear on the door jamb VIN data decal. With that in mind, E would be the highest letter in the code for the weeks of the month. E represents 5 for the 5th week, which some months do have.
Even if your labels are intact and readable, you must type out your 17-digit VIN number and the month and year of manufacture date. This is very important! If the gross weight figure is not readable, we need to know what some of the major options are to determine the gross vehicle weight. Options like T-Tops and power seat would add more weight. If the decals are present, be sure to send a clear photo of them. For best results make sure your flash is off when you take the photos.
There are no free do overs. So, double-check your answers before placing your order. Remember, these are custom made specifically for your car. These door jamb data VIN decals are on the proper tamper-proof paper, just like the originals, which is required by Federal Law. Once you apply them, you can't reposition them so make sure to position them correctly. (Refer to the photos you took prior to removing your originals).
There is a clear coating over these new reproduction door jamb VIN decals, which is invisible to prevent them from getting ruined by most cleaning solvents. Be sure to double-check the GM part number on your original door jamb VIN data decals to match the year of your Turbo Regal as we have indicated below. This is because each decal can be different, depending on the year. In each case the font style GM used will be matched exactly. However, any imperfections that may appear in your original photo, such as crooked wording, will be made straight. This is the way it should have been originally from GM.
NOTE - In case the GM part numbers on your original door jamb VIN data decal are not any of the ones listed below for the years shown, pick the last choice on the order form and type in the GM part numbers that appears on your original door jamb VIN data decals. ECS will find that GM number in their system and be able to match it exactly. Even though the Turbo Regals were all produced at the same plant (Pontiac, Michigan) some differences may exist.
These door jamb VIN data decals are also correct for all the 1984-1987 GM car models, including the Monte Carlo, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Pontiac Grand Prix.
We have pictured actual samples for each year 1984-1987 Turbo Regal door jamb data VIN decals alongside the matching part number to indicate what you would receive. Double-check that GM part number with your originals to make sure it’s the same.
1984 Buick Turbo Regal Door Jamb Data VIN Decals (2), GM part #14065978A and B.
1985-1986 Buick Turbo Regal Door Jamb VIN Data Decals (2), GM part #14085204A and B.
1987 Buick Turbo Regal Door Jamb VIN Data Decals (2), GM part #10080812A and B.
Orders will be sent by Priority Mail directly from ECS Automotive Concepts. Decals are custom made, so allow 5-7 days for delivery.
We do not offer any of these decals individually. Since both appear together on the door jamb, replacing only one would never match the remaining old faded decal.
Remember, ECS Automotive Concepts is the only licensed GM supplier that can make these door VIN data decals and has the proper equipment to match the original font GM used on the correct tamper-proof paper required by Federal Law.
Below is the required information we need from you:
17-Digit VIN number and include proof of VIN (such as a copy of SPI trunk ID label, or Car title.) Even if your photograph decals are clear, you must also type out the 17-digit VIN number.
Date month/year (See copy above to determine month and year of manufacture if your decal is missing or not readable.) Even if pictured, be sure to type out the month/year.
If your decal is missing or not readable, provide information on any major options (such as T-Top/power seat, etc.) to determine approximate gross weight.
If you have original door jamb data decals on your car, include several clear photos. Do not use the flash on the camera for these photos.
We also require a daytime phone number and email address with your order, in case ECS Automotive Concepts has any questions.
Be sure to verify the GM part number against the year of your Turbo Regal to the above information. If none of them match the numbers we have noted, include the GM part number that does appear on your door jamb Data VIN decals.
Remember, these are all custom-made data VIN decals pertaining to your car. So double-check your information before sending it to us. If you have sent the wrong information and the decals are made to your incorrect specifications, you would have to pay for the decals to be made again.
NOTE - The GM part number appears in the lower right corner of each of the original decals.
7900 - 1984 All GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2), GM Part #14065978A and B - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping.
7901 - 1985-1986 All GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2), GM Part #14085204A and B - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping.
7902 – 1987-1989 All GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2), GM Part #10080812A and B - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping.
SPECIFY YEAR - GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2) - If none of the part numbers correspond with your application, provide the GM part number here along with the other information. ECS Automotive Concepts has a huge GM file of VIN decals and will be able to match it correctly against the GM part number you provide. - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping. MUST SPECIFY 8-digit part # A and B.
Allow 5-7 days for delivery. Decals are sent Priority Mail from ECS Automotive Concepts
ORDERING - To place your order, you must email the photos, typed information, name, address, and daytime telephone number to - [email protected] She will contact you for credit card information to process you order.
If you are not able to email us, you will have to print the information and send it by mail to Kirban Performance Products, P.O. Box 1199, Plumsteadville, PA 18949. Or you can FAX it to 215-766-1615.
NOTE - ECS Automotive Concepts is able to do all the door jamb VIN data decals back through 1969. The early decals were a single blue label. Those decals are not required to be printed on the tamper-proof paper and are priced differently. Beginning in 1975 GM, used decals printed on tamper-proof paper.
If you want to order decals for any older GM car from 1983 back to 1969, email me for pricing and details - [email protected]
ECS Automotive Concepts has all the various VIN door jamb decals for those cars in their system.
NOTE - Here is a link to view this on the website:
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/inner_circle.php?nak=394
ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IDEAS -
If you have any product ideas that would fit our Turbo Buick market that you would like to see available, email me direct - [email protected]
ALWAYS IN A BUYING POSITION FOR TURBO REGAL PARTS -
Got any Turbo Buick parts you are not using? Why not cash them in for parts you need with a Letter of Credit. Simply email me a list - [email protected]. Also, we are still buying dead or partially dead 1984-1987 Turbo Regals under $4,000 that are within 250 to 350 miles of our location.
NOTE - ABOUT LINKS IN THE INNER CIRCLE -
We have heard from a couple people that have had problems with the links in our Inner Circle.
When we check the links, they work fine. However, if you are not able to be directed to the exact website page or internet site, you can "copy" and "paste" the link into the URL in your browser (such as Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, etc.) If it doesn't link in one browser, it may work in another.
Most people having problems are using Internet Explorer… If you are having issues with links, try another browser to see if it works.
You may need to "UPDATE" your browser to be use you are using the current version.
NOTE ABOUT PHOTOS ON THE WEBSITE -
We have heard from a couple people that have viewed the photos on the website. Because these have to be low-resolution photos to work on the Inner Circle segments on the website, any photos of text don't appear clear when enlarged. This is a problem when you are trying to see numbers, such as those on the VIN labels or pages from Options booklet. Also, because of photo reproduction and computer screen variations, the colors may not be true to the actual product or photo.
If you would like to have us email you any photo at the higher resolution for viewing, just email us and we will email them to you. Be sure to be specific on which pictures you want to see - Reference Inner Circle date and photo number 1, 2, 3 or 4 - [email protected]
2016 CALENDAR OF EVENTS -
KIRBAN PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS SPRING OPEN HOUSE -
Saturday, April 30rd, 2016 - 9 am - 2 pm -
NOTE - The date was changed to APRIL 30th
Once again free Yum Yum donuts and coffee will be available in the morning. Terry Shaw will be conducting a seminar on the importance of having your car appraised.
We will have several unique limited production items available for sale at this event. Also samples of our new project. Although not strictly car related we can do car photos as well. This is a very unique format done on a special machine. In my immediate area I only know of two companies that have this machine.
We will be awarding 3 different trophies at our Spring Open House courtesy of Russ and Nancy. One will be for Longest Distance driven in a Turbo Regal to our event. Another trophy will be awarded for the car needing the most TLC, meaning the one Turbo Regal needing the most tender loving care. Last but not least, Kirban’s Choice award, which will be one that I pick that I feel is one I like or represents a car that I would buy.
Russ and Nancy have agreed to do the cooking. The luncheon is strictly by donation with all proceeds going to PBS, which Russ and Nancy support.
This is the only Open House we are doing this year, so you don’t want to miss it.
Most of our website products will be specially priced. We will have an array of used parts for sale, our M&M contest, and our no reserve auction. This event has no rain date.
TURBO BUICK/RICHARD CLARK EVENT - May 4th - May 7th, 2016 - Burlington, NC
This event is held at Richard Clark’s shop, located at 2557 Faucette Lane, Burlington, NC. If you have never been to his shop before, it would be a great event to attend. Once again, I am the MC for the free luncheon on Thursday. We will be at this event as a vendor. Bring any cores you want to cash in for a Letter of Credit. The event moves to the nearby racetrack for Friday and Saturday.
For more information, go to turbobuick.com and look for this under “Events for 2016.” I know that Mike Barnard (owner of Spoolfool), Nick Micale from Arizona, G-Body, Pete Hoffman, and our company will be in attendance.
RIDE ON MOLLY 6 - Saturday, May 21st, 2016 - California
For more information, contact Alan DeCarr - [email protected]
This event is now in its 6th year since Molly’s passing.
PYPES EXHAUST & MAX PERFORMANCE OPEN HOUSE CAR SHOW - June 18th, 2016 -
Held at their Headquarters, 2705 Clemens Road, Hatfield, PA 19440
This event has no rain date. Open to all American Muscle cars and trucks.
For more details, contact - [email protected]
This is a huge event that I usually attend, however, this year I can’t since it’s the same weekend as GM at Carlisle and I’m speaking both days at GM Carlisle.
GM CARLISLE - June 17th-19th, 2016
I am a guest speaker at this event both Friday and Saturday. I’ll be talking on Hurst, Hurst/Olds, and also about the door jamb VIN data decals. Seminars are always free at Carlisle.
Now that our granddaughter has a 2012 Camaro SS, she is planning on attending and showing her car. Carlisle is one of the largest swap meet facilities in the country. If you are planning on attending, bring any cores you want to cash in for a Letter of Credit. I will be able to take them. This will be the second year I been a guest speaker at Carlisle and it’s quite an honor. Over the years I have spoken at several National Pontiac and GTO conventions.
Check their website to see dates of all their upcoming 2016 events - carlisleevents.com
GS NATIONALS - September 14th-17th, 2016 -
Beach Bend Raceway in Bowling Green, Kentucky
See the GSXtra for more details, or their website - gsnationals.com
EAST COAST BUICK REGIONALS - September 16th-17th, 2016 at Cecil County Dragway in Rising Sun, Maryland
Event includes a judged car show on Saturday open to all Buick makes and anything Buick powered. Free Vending. Saturday race classes must be Buick powered.
For more information, contact - [email protected] or [email protected]
This is not a misprint both the GS Nationals and East Coast Buick Regionals fall on the same weekend.
ABOUT OUR EMAILS -
Any inquiries concerning used parts, you must email me direct - [email protected] - I will answer you. However, if I fail to answer you within 24 hours, please email us again. Since expanding into used parts, I get a lot of emails and sometimes I may forget your request or may not remember who requested the item.
IN CLOSING -
Spring is in the air. We had several days last week where the temperatures reached 80 degrees, breaking all kinds of records. But with spring comes dandelions! You never see just one dandelion. The one plant that thrives every spring!
REPRODUCTION ALUMINUM BRAKE DRUMS UPDATE -
I have no news to report on the reproduction aluminum drums that A1 Cardone has just produced. However, they have sent me one to examine, which I don’t have as of yet.
I will have photos of it in next week’s Inner Circle. I plan to also photograph an original aluminum drum that is currently on our white Turbo-T in the garage hibernating. Hopefully, I will also have more details and pricing by then.
MONTE CARLO SS COMPARISONS TO THE BUICK REGAL GRAND NATIONAL -
People will always compare the Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS to the Buick Regal Grand National.
To learn more about Monte Carlo SS models, I checked with a good friend of mine who deals with the 1983-1988 Monte Carlo parts. He says all the SS Monte Carlos received aluminum supports in the bumpers, front and rear. Also, the 1985 through 1988 models all got 3.73 gears. They all had a 7.5 size rear assembly, whereas our cars had the bigger 8.5 housings. The 1983 and 1984 models had 3.42 gears because it still had a 3- speed transmission.
Based on this, it would appear that Chevrolet did virtually everything possible to eliminate weight from the Monte Carlo SS. They also installed 3.73 gearing so it had some power off the line. Even with the weight reductions Chevrolet did, the basic weight was within 10 pounds as the same year Grand National. Also, the Monte Carlo SS did not have heavy chrome steel wheels, like the Grand National did.
Remember, back then most potential buyers were in the dark about the power that the Buick V6 SFI turbo was making. Most buyers opted for the Monte Carlo SS because of the V8. For many years the V8 was the sought after engine for muscle cars.
It wasn’t until partially through 1987 that potential buyers started to realize from the many various magazine articles that Buick had stolen the spotlight from Chevy. Buick accomplished this with a little V6 turbo-charged engine. If the internet been a factor back then, I think Buick would have sold more Turbo Regals, since information would have reached the public more quickly. This is just my opinion.
I have bought and sold just over 300 Turbo Regals (1986-1987.) Some had the original paperwork. On some of the car’s paperwork it showed the owner traded a Monte Carlo SS in on the Turbo Regal.
I happen to have the invoice for our personal Turbo-T and even that owner traded in a 1986 Monte Carlo on the Turbo-T in the summer of 1987.
Going by memory I can only recall taking in one Monte Carlo SS as a partial trade. The reason I avoided taking them in trades, was because so many were produced, it would be a tough car for me to resell.
My source told me Chevrolet produced approximately 200,000 Monte Carlos from 1983 through 1988. That is about 4 times more than the 1983-1987 Turbo Buicks that were produced.
GM LICENSED REPRODUCTION DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS -
Dave, the owner of ECS Automotive Concepts, is sending me samples of a 1986 Grand National Window Sticker he recently did. He’s also sending me a Window Sticker duplicating my 1987 Turbo-T, so I can compare it to my original and to Triple A’s reproduction, which I also have. He has purchased the correct paper stock, which is perforated on the edges like the original paper. He says it will be a dead on match to the original Window Stickers. Our original Window Sticker were all black and lacked any kind of color unlike the later ones! Once I get these samples, we’ll have a price for these reproduction Window Stickers.
We just made up a display board that we show actual samples of all the GM Licensed Door Jamb VIN Data Decals from 1969 thru 1989. The board also shows the 4 different years of body number plates - 1984, 1985, 1986, and 1987. This board will be on display at our Spring Open House as well as Richard Clark’s event in May in North Carolina. I will also have it at the seminar I’m conducting at the GM at Carlisle event.
PHOTO 1 - Shows the board that features all the GM licensed Reproduction Door Jamb VIN data decals from 1969 through 1989. Although it may not be readable in the photo, the 1975-1976 decals were the same and there was just a single decal those years. The 1978 and up all received 2 decals. The decal for 1981-1983 was the same. The decal for 1985-1986 was the same. The decal for 1987-1989 was the same.
GM did not put a GM part number on the door jamb VIN data decals until the 1978 design. These differences would probably not be known by most owners unless they saw samples of all the various year’s of decals in one place, like on the display board we compiled.
BACKTRACKING TO LAST WEEK’S ISSUE ON THE LeSABRE GRAND NATIONAL -
PHOTO 2 - Here are two photos I was able to find of the 1986 LeSabre Grand National we had in the early 1990s. The car really looked good after our son painted it. We had American Racing wheels, since I did not like the stock wheels.
On a side note, the coupes for this body style are very rare to see today. Whether it’s a Buick or an Oldsmobile, you see mostly the four-door sedans.
MORE BACK TRACKING -
I am not sure what issue I mentioned it in, but I remember when we were selling the Turbo Regals, we had a customer come to look at a Grand National we had for sale. At the time we probably had 4 or 5 Turbo Regals sitting at our house and my neighbor’s house. I remember because it was wintertime and our neighbor spent the entire winter in Florida and wanted us to put cars on their driveway so it appeared that someone was home. They even let me use one of their garage bays.
This buyer came to look at the 2 or 3 Grand Nationals we had for sale. He wanted to buy a Grand National. At the time, I had a very rare color a beautiful light blue 1987 Turbo-T with the chrome package and the rare astroroof option. The Turbo-T was blocking the one Grand National he came to see, so I had to move it. Within a few minutes he had changed his mind completely and bought the light blue Turbo-T. Of the 300 plus Turbo Regals I’ve owned, it was the only light blue one I ever bought.
PHOTO 3 - Here are 2 photos of the light blue Turbo-T. In the one photo, you can see a Grand National behind it. Since it doesn’t have a PA inspection sticker, it means I bought it out of state. The car had the dark blue interior, which I always thought was one of the best color interiors in these cars. I can’t recall what year I sold this car since my chart does not list color combinations. One thing for certain, it is worth a lot more today than it was when I sold it, as long as it has been maintained. I don’t know why, but you just never see many light blue 1987 Turbo-Ts. The astroroof makes it even more rare.
DID YOU KNOW -
Did you know that last year - 2015 - Buick only had 5 different models available? All were either front-wheel or all-wheel drive. Compared this to 1987 when Buick had 8 different models in the marketplace. Under each of the 8 different models, they offered many different versions. While the number of models Buick offered has decreased, they have improved their quality control immensely since 1987!
RICHARD CLARK IS NOW ON FACEBOOK -
Below is a link to see what Richard Clark has been doing. As you know the TurboBuick.com event is held in part at his garage in Burlington, North Carolina. We will be there handling some of the duties such as the Thursday luncheon. His shop is fully equipped to do it all, from drive train to body and paint.
https://www.facebook.com/RichardClarksGarage/
FROM OUR ARCHIVES -
Last week we covered more about the 1986 Buick Press Kit. Also 1986 was the first year that the high-mounted stop lamp was on every model. Some GM models did have this feature in 1985. This was mandatory for all 1986 U.S. production cars. Trucks were not required to have a third brake light until 1994.
Meanwhile, at Mercedes Benz, it was the first year they installed air bags in all their models. Prior to this in 1985 it was $880 option on most Mercedes Benz models.
In the 1986 Buick Press Kit, it stated that the T-Type models had specially designed Lear Sieglar bucket seats. This was not to be, according to a Product Information sheet that I have dated 5/12/86. The original plan was for it to be available in the Regal, Century and Somerset models. The sheet does not give a reason why this option was cancelled. Another Product Information sheet dated 2/28/86 explained the price increase for the hatch roof (T-Tops) was because a lock system was added to each roof panel and the price was then listed at $875.
Buick printed a Performance Perspective Sheet for the 1986 Regal T-Type and also did one for the Riviera T-Type. One side covered all the specs related to the powertrain and performance and the other side listed all the specs for the chassis. It’s interesting that under brakes it only listed the cast iron finned drums and did not even mention the aluminum drums. The estimated weight of the 1986 Grand National was listed at 3,256 lbs. The weight is estimated, because options add more weight.
PHOTO 4 - We show both the front and back of the 1986 Buick Regal T-Type Performance Perspective sheet from Buick.
CAR FOR SALE - 1986 Buick LeSabre Grand National - NON TURBO 3800 motor
A rare collector’s Buick Grand National LeSabre
1 of 117 and 1 of 25 that was used at the Daytona 500
Car has been garage kept since 1986
25,000 original miles
Exterior is 9-1/2
Interior is a 10
I have all the original paper work from the dealer
The wheels on the car are aftermarket, but the original wheels are in mint condition in my garage. Original wheels will come with the car.
Not really looking to trade unless you have a diesel pickup in good condition.
Cash is king, and low ball offers will be ignored. Any other questions, let me know.
Call, text, email, all is fine. Reasonable hrs. Car can be seen any day of the week after 3pm.
Please don’t call and ask me if this car has a TURBO because it does not have one.
FWD 3800 Non Turbo motor.
$20,000
For more information, contact Joe - 908-510-8229 -
email - [email protected]
Central New Jersey
Here is a link to this LeSabre For Sale on our website:
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product/44296/CAR+FOR+SALE+-+1986+Buick+LeSabre+Grand+National+-+CFS037.html
DO YOU OWN A RETAIL BUSINESS -
We have almost all the details worked out on this new project. Profit margins would be between 35% and 40%. We will have samples on display at our Open House and at Richard Clark’s event as well. If you have any type of retail outlet, this might be something you want to consider. We will be posting actual photos in an upcoming Inner Circle of this product line, sometime in the next few weeks.
REPRODUCTION GNX-STYLE DASH FOR SALE -
Complete pre-mounted GNX dash for sale. All of the cutting, fitting and alignment work is complete, just wire the dash and install the entire unit.
Kit Includes:
Applique with correct color indicators
Metal mounting plate
Plastic gauge bezel
Stock pre-cut cluster harness
Stock dash bezel (pre-cut with plastic gauge bezel attached)
New Stewart Warner speedometer with upper speedometer cable
New Stewart Warner tachometer
New Stewart Warner oil pressure gauge with sending unit
New Stewart Warner water temperature gauge with sending unit
New Stewart Warner fuel gauge
New Stewart Warner vacuum/ boost gauge
Plug-and-play harness
$2,250 plus shipping
This one was hand built by a good friend of ours who owns 3 Grand Nationals and has built several of these.
It comes with stock bezel already pre-cut so you do not have to cut your dash bezel. This kit eliminates any possible issues of trial and error since they have built several of these.
Buyer would have to inform us which dash is currently in the car - either digital or analog.
If interested, email me direct - [email protected] - I can provide photos.
CORES NEEDED -
Here is the information on our credits for cores.
We currently need original good 1986-1987 AC Delco mass air flow sensors. We allow $25 Letter of Credit for each core that can be rebuilt.
URGENT NEED - TURBO CORES must be the 1986-1987 Turbo Regal stock ones. They must be complete. We will issue you a $100 Letter of Credit for each acceptable core.
If you ship to us, the post office is the cheapest method. Pack the item(s) with a note with your name, address and phone number
MAIL - Ship to Address -
ATTN - DENNIS
KIRBAN PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
PO BOX 1199
PLUMSTEADSVILLE, PA 18949-1199
TECH CALLS -
If you need technical information, it’s best to email - [email protected] rather than call us.
We will do our best to answer any technical questions within 24 hours.
VEHICLES FOR SALE -
From time to time, whenever we spot an unusual or an exceptional car or truck for sale, or one we have for sale, we will put a blurb in our weekly Inner Circle. Also, any cars that our customers have for sale will be featured here and you can see their car with photos on our website. In this category, we will run the descriptions for two-to-three weeks and, if there is no interest in that particular vehicle, it will be deleted the following week. Any new vehicles that we add will appear first, so the oldest listing would be at the end of this section.
If any of these vehicles perk your interest, email me personally - [email protected] - for more information and photos.
TIPS AND IDEAS YOU HAVE TRIED -
If you have a tip or a discovery that you found that works on your Turbo Regal, drop us an email giving us the details so we can pass the info on to our readers. Remember, even with my knowledge, I don’t know it all. Simply email me at - [email protected]
NEW PRODUCTS FROM US -
1978-1988 GM G-Body, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
BOLT-IN REAR SHOCK TOWER BRACE & HARDWARE
This 100% jig built, bolt-in brace ties the rear upper shock mounts together to share the load and stiffen the chassis. Strong 1-1/4" tubing is MIG welded to 3/16" thick laser cut brackets for a perfect fit.
This brace is designed to clear all of the popular exhaust systems and works equally well on coilover setups and traditional spring/shock combinations. Overall distance from floor to the bottom of the brace is approximately 5".
All UMI products are built from US steel, then powder coated black. Hardware is included to makes this a true, easy bolt-in installation.
Features:
Manufactured from 1-1/4" USA Tubing
CNC laser cut 3/16" mounting brackets
Grade 8 hardware included
Easy bolt-in installation with basic hand tools
Powder-coated black for a durable long-lasting finish
Made in the USA by UMI
Our top photo shows the brace and the hardware. The lower photos show this rear shock tower brace installed on a car with coil over springs. NOTE - The brace in the photos is red, but we only offer it in black.
NOTE - You may also be interested in these related parts - #1586 Powder-coated Black Rear Seat Frame Brace Kit® and #7169 Reproduction GNX Rear Seat Brace Kit (5) Set.
Another excellent way to stiffen the suspension on your car.
7715 - 1978-1988 GM G-Body, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
Bolt-In Rear Shock Tower Brace and Hardware - $130
Here is a link to this Shock Tower Brace on our website:
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product/44295/BOLT-IN+REAR+SHOCK+TOWER+BRACE+%26+HARDWARE+%237715.html
1984-1989 ALL GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS
Every 1978-1987 G-body car had 2 tamper-proof door jamb VIN data decals. It’s impossible to remove the originals decals without destroying them. These decals are required by Federal Law to be printed on tamper-proof paper. The important decals show the car’s date of manufacture and the 17-digit VIN number. In many cases, your original decals may no longer be readable, may be missing, or may have paint overspray on them.
GM used a different design for each specific year or years.
Below is all the information pertaining to getting the proper reproduction door jamb VIN data decals for an 1984-1989 Turbo Regal. This also includes any 1984-1987, Monte Carlo SS, or Oldsmobile 442. We can also get ones for those same years for the regular models. In those cases, the tire sizes listed would be different.
We are working with the only GM licensed vendor authorized to reproduce all these important VIN-related decals for GM older vehicles, ECS Automotive Concepts. We are the only mail-order distributor directly dealing with ECS to offer these decals for the cars listed. We also have made this product line available to other GM mail-order suppliers. ECS Automotive Concepts also has VIN data decals contracts with Ford, Chrysler and several others. They have the special equipment in house to exactly match the original font style GM used to imprint the door jamb VIN data decals. These are printed on the correct tamper-proof paper, which is required by Federal Law. They are the ONLY GM licensed source to make them complete using the proper font format to imprint exact information for your individual car.
While you can find blank VIN data decals available elsewhere, many are not on the correct tamper-proof paper (required by Federal Law.) Most of these sellers offer blank decals and tell you to simply type in your information. Of course, your typewriter is not going to match the font style GM used, it’s impossible to type it straight onto a small decal, and who even has a typewriter today. The correct equipment to duplicate the original font GM used runs over $100,000. ECS Automotive Concepts has this equipment in house. Their larger market caters to all the late-model GM-Chrysler-Ford vehicles for collision shops, since they hold all the required license agreements with those companies to reproduce the VIN decals.
If you want to have the correct door jamb VIN data decals to replace unreadable decals on your car or if your car’s decals are missing altogether, ECS is the only authentic option. These are custom-made specifically for your car. Having these important decals also enhances the value of your car. It is one of the things collectors look for since it has the VIN information on it. Not having these VIN data decals on a car raises a red flag with any potential collectable car buyer.
Be sure to read all the below information carefully before placing your order for replacement 1984-1987 Turbo Regal Door Jamb VIN Data stickers. We only offer them as a set of both decals. You cannot order just one, since it would stand out looking new next to the old original decal.
First, if yours are still on your door jamb take a photo so you can see their exact position. Do NOT remove them until you receive the new decals. Be sure to note which one of the two decals is the first one on your door jamb and which direction they face.
We have listed the original GM part number by each year, which appears on your actual data VIN decals. In each case, the GM part number was the same for both with the addition of either the letter A or B after the part number.
The A code will show your 17-digit VIN number, date of manufacture, and vehicle weight.
The B code covers the Tire-Loading information.
You need to verify that it’s the same GM part number that corresponds to your specific year Turbo Regal. This 8-digit GM part number with the letter A or B will be in the bottom right corner of the two door jamb data decals. If your label that contains the 17-digit VIN number is completely gone or not legible, you must send us a clear copy of your VIN number from the dash VIN plate, the SPI trunk label, or your car title. Along with the photographic file, also type out the 17-digit VIN number and Date of Manufacture so it can be checked against the photo.
We cannot process your order without this proof of your VIN number. You also need to provide month and year of Date of Manufacture. The only way I know this can be determined is by reading the code on your Body Number Plate, also called the “Cowl Tag Plate.” This is the small metal plate located under the hood by the driver’s side wiper arm. In most cases, you will have to lightly sand the raise letters/numbers to read them. The code you need is on the first line. There is a 4-digit code in the upper left corner that gives the year, month, and week of production of your car. Keep in mind, Dates of Manufacture could be the fall prior to your actual model year. Example - An early 1984 model could have a production date of November 1983, December 1983, and so on. You only need to give us the year and month, which is what would appear on the door jamb VIN data decal. The first letter in the code stands for the year. The digits following the letter represent the month. The last single letter represents the week of production. Example, The letter E stands for 1984, F stands for 1985, G stands for 1986, and H stands for 1987. Example - For the month of production - 02 would be for February, 04 would be April, and so on. The letter after the initial numbers is the actual production week of the month, which we do NOT need since it does not appear on the door jamb VIN data decal. With that in mind, E would be the highest letter in the code for the weeks of the month. E represents 5 for the 5th week, which some months do have.
Even if your labels are intact and readable, you must type out your 17-digit VIN number and the month and year of manufacture date. This is very important! If the gross weight figure is not readable, we need to know what some of the major options are to determine the gross vehicle weight. Options like T-Tops and power seat would add more weight. If the decals are present, be sure to send a clear photo of them. For best results make sure your flash is off when you take the photos.
There are no free do overs. So, double-check your answers before placing your order. Remember, these are custom made specifically for your car. These door jamb data VIN decals are on the proper tamper-proof paper, just like the originals, which is required by Federal Law. Once you apply them, you can't reposition them so make sure to position them correctly. (Refer to the photos you took prior to removing your originals).
There is a clear coating over these new reproduction door jamb VIN decals, which is invisible to prevent them from getting ruined by most cleaning solvents. Be sure to double-check the GM part number on your original door jamb VIN data decals to match the year of your Turbo Regal as we have indicated below. This is because each decal can be different, depending on the year. In each case the font style GM used will be matched exactly. However, any imperfections that may appear in your original photo, such as crooked wording, will be made straight. This is the way it should have been originally from GM.
NOTE - In case the GM part numbers on your original door jamb VIN data decal are not any of the ones listed below for the years shown, pick the last choice on the order form and type in the GM part numbers that appears on your original door jamb VIN data decals. ECS will find that GM number in their system and be able to match it exactly. Even though the Turbo Regals were all produced at the same plant (Pontiac, Michigan) some differences may exist.
These door jamb VIN data decals are also correct for all the 1984-1987 GM car models, including the Monte Carlo, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Pontiac Grand Prix.
We have pictured actual samples for each year 1984-1987 Turbo Regal door jamb data VIN decals alongside the matching part number to indicate what you would receive. Double-check that GM part number with your originals to make sure it’s the same.
1984 Buick Turbo Regal Door Jamb Data VIN Decals (2), GM part #14065978A and B.
1985-1986 Buick Turbo Regal Door Jamb VIN Data Decals (2), GM part #14085204A and B.
1987 Buick Turbo Regal Door Jamb VIN Data Decals (2), GM part #10080812A and B.
Orders will be sent by Priority Mail directly from ECS Automotive Concepts. Decals are custom made, so allow 5-7 days for delivery.
We do not offer any of these decals individually. Since both appear together on the door jamb, replacing only one would never match the remaining old faded decal.
Remember, ECS Automotive Concepts is the only licensed GM supplier that can make these door VIN data decals and has the proper equipment to match the original font GM used on the correct tamper-proof paper required by Federal Law.
Below is the required information we need from you:
17-Digit VIN number and include proof of VIN (such as a copy of SPI trunk ID label, or Car title.) Even if your photograph decals are clear, you must also type out the 17-digit VIN number.
Date month/year (See copy above to determine month and year of manufacture if your decal is missing or not readable.) Even if pictured, be sure to type out the month/year.
If your decal is missing or not readable, provide information on any major options (such as T-Top/power seat, etc.) to determine approximate gross weight.
If you have original door jamb data decals on your car, include several clear photos. Do not use the flash on the camera for these photos.
We also require a daytime phone number and email address with your order, in case ECS Automotive Concepts has any questions.
Be sure to verify the GM part number against the year of your Turbo Regal to the above information. If none of them match the numbers we have noted, include the GM part number that does appear on your door jamb Data VIN decals.
Remember, these are all custom-made data VIN decals pertaining to your car. So double-check your information before sending it to us. If you have sent the wrong information and the decals are made to your incorrect specifications, you would have to pay for the decals to be made again.
NOTE - The GM part number appears in the lower right corner of each of the original decals.
7900 - 1984 All GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2), GM Part #14065978A and B - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping.
7901 - 1985-1986 All GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2), GM Part #14085204A and B - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping.
7902 – 1987-1989 All GM Car Models, Including Buick Turbo Regal -
GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2), GM Part #10080812A and B - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping.
SPECIFY YEAR - GM LICENSED DOOR JAMB VIN DATA DECALS (2) - If none of the part numbers correspond with your application, provide the GM part number here along with the other information. ECS Automotive Concepts has a huge GM file of VIN decals and will be able to match it correctly against the GM part number you provide. - $120 plus $7 for Priority Mail shipping. MUST SPECIFY 8-digit part # A and B.
Allow 5-7 days for delivery. Decals are sent Priority Mail from ECS Automotive Concepts
ORDERING - To place your order, you must email the photos, typed information, name, address, and daytime telephone number to - [email protected] She will contact you for credit card information to process you order.
If you are not able to email us, you will have to print the information and send it by mail to Kirban Performance Products, P.O. Box 1199, Plumsteadville, PA 18949. Or you can FAX it to 215-766-1615.
NOTE - ECS Automotive Concepts is able to do all the door jamb VIN data decals back through 1969. The early decals were a single blue label. Those decals are not required to be printed on the tamper-proof paper and are priced differently. Beginning in 1975 GM, used decals printed on tamper-proof paper.
If you want to order decals for any older GM car from 1983 back to 1969, email me for pricing and details - [email protected]
ECS Automotive Concepts has all the various VIN door jamb decals for those cars in their system.
NOTE - Here is a link to view this on the website:
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/inner_circle.php?nak=394
ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IDEAS -
If you have any product ideas that would fit our Turbo Buick market that you would like to see available, email me direct - [email protected]
ALWAYS IN A BUYING POSITION FOR TURBO REGAL PARTS -
Got any Turbo Buick parts you are not using? Why not cash them in for parts you need with a Letter of Credit. Simply email me a list - [email protected]. Also, we are still buying dead or partially dead 1984-1987 Turbo Regals under $4,000 that are within 250 to 350 miles of our location.
NOTE - ABOUT LINKS IN THE INNER CIRCLE -
We have heard from a couple people that have had problems with the links in our Inner Circle.
When we check the links, they work fine. However, if you are not able to be directed to the exact website page or internet site, you can "copy" and "paste" the link into the URL in your browser (such as Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, etc.) If it doesn't link in one browser, it may work in another.
Most people having problems are using Internet Explorer… If you are having issues with links, try another browser to see if it works.
You may need to "UPDATE" your browser to be use you are using the current version.
NOTE ABOUT PHOTOS ON THE WEBSITE -
We have heard from a couple people that have viewed the photos on the website. Because these have to be low-resolution photos to work on the Inner Circle segments on the website, any photos of text don't appear clear when enlarged. This is a problem when you are trying to see numbers, such as those on the VIN labels or pages from Options booklet. Also, because of photo reproduction and computer screen variations, the colors may not be true to the actual product or photo.
If you would like to have us email you any photo at the higher resolution for viewing, just email us and we will email them to you. Be sure to be specific on which pictures you want to see - Reference Inner Circle date and photo number 1, 2, 3 or 4 - [email protected]
2016 CALENDAR OF EVENTS -
KIRBAN PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS SPRING OPEN HOUSE -
Saturday, April 30rd, 2016 - 9 am - 2 pm -
NOTE - The date was changed to APRIL 30th
Once again free Yum Yum donuts and coffee will be available in the morning. Terry Shaw will be conducting a seminar on the importance of having your car appraised.
We will have several unique limited production items available for sale at this event. Also samples of our new project. Although not strictly car related we can do car photos as well. This is a very unique format done on a special machine. In my immediate area I only know of two companies that have this machine.
We will be awarding 3 different trophies at our Spring Open House courtesy of Russ and Nancy. One will be for Longest Distance driven in a Turbo Regal to our event. Another trophy will be awarded for the car needing the most TLC, meaning the one Turbo Regal needing the most tender loving care. Last but not least, Kirban’s Choice award, which will be one that I pick that I feel is one I like or represents a car that I would buy.
Russ and Nancy have agreed to do the cooking. The luncheon is strictly by donation with all proceeds going to PBS, which Russ and Nancy support.
This is the only Open House we are doing this year, so you don’t want to miss it.
Most of our website products will be specially priced. We will have an array of used parts for sale, our M&M contest, and our no reserve auction. This event has no rain date.
TURBO BUICK/RICHARD CLARK EVENT - May 4th - May 7th, 2016 - Burlington, NC
This event is held at Richard Clark’s shop, located at 2557 Faucette Lane, Burlington, NC. If you have never been to his shop before, it would be a great event to attend. Once again, I am the MC for the free luncheon on Thursday. We will be at this event as a vendor. Bring any cores you want to cash in for a Letter of Credit. The event moves to the nearby racetrack for Friday and Saturday.
For more information, go to turbobuick.com and look for this under “Events for 2016.” I know that Mike Barnard (owner of Spoolfool), Nick Micale from Arizona, G-Body, Pete Hoffman, and our company will be in attendance.
RIDE ON MOLLY 6 - Saturday, May 21st, 2016 - California
For more information, contact Alan DeCarr - [email protected]
This event is now in its 6th year since Molly’s passing.
PYPES EXHAUST & MAX PERFORMANCE OPEN HOUSE CAR SHOW - June 18th, 2016 -
Held at their Headquarters, 2705 Clemens Road, Hatfield, PA 19440
This event has no rain date. Open to all American Muscle cars and trucks.
For more details, contact - [email protected]
This is a huge event that I usually attend, however, this year I can’t since it’s the same weekend as GM at Carlisle and I’m speaking both days at GM Carlisle.
GM CARLISLE - June 17th-19th, 2016
I am a guest speaker at this event both Friday and Saturday. I’ll be talking on Hurst, Hurst/Olds, and also about the door jamb VIN data decals. Seminars are always free at Carlisle.
Now that our granddaughter has a 2012 Camaro SS, she is planning on attending and showing her car. Carlisle is one of the largest swap meet facilities in the country. If you are planning on attending, bring any cores you want to cash in for a Letter of Credit. I will be able to take them. This will be the second year I been a guest speaker at Carlisle and it’s quite an honor. Over the years I have spoken at several National Pontiac and GTO conventions.
Check their website to see dates of all their upcoming 2016 events - carlisleevents.com
GS NATIONALS - September 14th-17th, 2016 -
Beach Bend Raceway in Bowling Green, Kentucky
See the GSXtra for more details, or their website - gsnationals.com
EAST COAST BUICK REGIONALS - September 16th-17th, 2016 at Cecil County Dragway in Rising Sun, Maryland
Event includes a judged car show on Saturday open to all Buick makes and anything Buick powered. Free Vending. Saturday race classes must be Buick powered.
For more information, contact - [email protected] or [email protected]
This is not a misprint both the GS Nationals and East Coast Buick Regionals fall on the same weekend.
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Any inquiries concerning used parts, you must email me direct - [email protected] - I will answer you. However, if I fail to answer you within 24 hours, please email us again. Since expanding into used parts, I get a lot of emails and sometimes I may forget your request or may not remember who requested the item.
IN CLOSING -
Spring is in the air. We had several days last week where the temperatures reached 80 degrees, breaking all kinds of records. But with spring comes dandelions! You never see just one dandelion. The one plant that thrives every spring!